Malaysia Veterinary Forum (Archive)

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

My Rottweiler is 6 months old now, been very active and very good appetite from young.

He started to get diarrhea for 1 week now, sometimes better sometimes worse. His appetite is still very good, finish all his food. I am still feeding him the same brand of dog biscuit. No increase in food given to him as well, but just started his obedience class for 2 weeks.

For this weekend, he looks tired and not so active compare to before. Even my housemate mentioned that he seems no mood also. Previously if he sees people comes near will be very excited and get playful. Now he only show his excitement to me and my bf, and stop being playful once I tie him up after playing.

I'm worry about him, his hind legs seems not so strong now. What could have him facing? He likes to bite this and that, especially neighbour's plant but I have been restricting him from chewing the plant, but once in a while he swallow it before we noticed.

Please advice, should I bring him to vet? Is it a serious case to my boy? Please help me! Thanks in advance.

Dr HanMRCVS · Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Posts: 566 Location: Johor Bahru

if he has been having diarrhoea for 1 week, i suggest you bring him to the vet asap, so that you can stop cleaning up after his diarrhoea!

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

Thanks, Dr. I will bring him to the vet after work. Will see if he's having anything.

But is this a serious case? I read through some articles talking abt IBD, not sure if this is wat he's having...

I feed him twice a day, morning and night. He sometimes eat plants which we'll restrict him from, but he manage to eat some curi-curi. His mouth can't stop eating, get excited when we eat something infront of him. LOL.

We train him even before we send him to class. Even the trainer said he is very smart and very good in temperament. We treat him like our son, so I am feeling heartache when seeing him become inactive. Cleaning is not a big problem as we do it always to keep his place as clean as it can.

That's why I wonder what makes him have diarrhea... He only eat dog biscuits and sometimes dog treats only... His toys we wash it everyday... Will he still get viral / virus infection? I'm worried...

Dr Nat · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1834 Location: Klang Valley

Its almost impossible to tell over the internet if your dog is in serious condition or not. The thing with diarrhoea, is that sometimes it can be nothing much and other times it can be very serious, i.e. fatal even! The best thing is to get him evaluated by a vet.

Viral infection can infect your dog even if you control what he eats and wash his toys. Because, you cannot really control your environment, i.e. what you step on. Furthermore, you're socialising him and introducing him to other dogs and other pet owners during the obedience training. Best way to prevent him from contracting deadly viral infection is to get him vaccinated.

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

At first to clarify that he's being vaccinated all at his 3-months-old.

Yesterday I went home and got to see his poop was in shape even if it's softer than usual. As the traffic was very bad in SS2 (coz of pasar malam) and I wanted to bring him to Subang Jaya for the recommended vet, I decided to observe him for another day.

This morning i clean his poop again, he eliminate harder poop at first and then the less watery type. He eat all his food in a comparingly slow motion then he was, and doesn't in a good mood.

I decided not to wait but will bring him to vet this evening, I know it's hard for you doctors to advice over the internet, but thousand thanks to your advice on the possibile outcome if left un-treated.

I love my boy and have done tons of research on his breed and also did all necessary vaccine and even heartguard for his every month consume. I wanted him to stay as healthy and live with us as long as he can. Please advice if I have anything else to improve on taking care of him, so that he can be with us as long as possible.

I know his life is just abt 10-15 years, but I do hope he can live like, eg 30 years with me. I will do watever I can to take care of him. I'm proud of him!

Because of this, sorry if I showed my anxiety wrongly without clarifying. I'm just a mom worried about her kid. Cheers! Will update his condition after vet visit.

Thanks!

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

Updates:

Got him to Healing Room in Subang Jaya for a checkup on his diarrhea. Eventhough his diarrhea seems gone yesterday, I still decided to bring him there to avoid it comes back again.

Dr Vijay is really patience enough to answer all my stupid questions. As I'm the first timer who owned a pure-bred, eventhough I've done much research online, I still think that I'm lack of knowledge. Learning is a lifelong cycle, isn't it? He answer all my question eventhough it delayed their closing time. I'm satisfied and feel grateful for Dr Vijay and the staffs of Healing Room.

Dr Vijay advice us to give my boy a natural remedies instead of drugs, which is feeding him chicken breast for 4 times a day continuously 3 days, and then slowly change to a diet food, and then change to his ordinary food. After the vet visit, we straightaway go carrefour to buy chicken breast, which cost us abt RM14 for 3 breast only. Pricey! Will get others from the market then.

Fasting for a day, my boy is abit nervous. However, he remains a good boy and stop making noise after 5 minutes. This morning, I woke up and get really busy for his chicken meal. He smells it and started making noise for a while, then stop again.

Will need to go back at my lunch time to feed him, I hope that he will fully recover, and also show us what makes him allergies to.

Pitty him, finished all his breakfast with a "mom, i'm still hungry" look.

Dr Nat · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1834 Location: Klang Valley

They'll always have that "I'm still hungry" look... dont give in! Haha.. well, at least not all the time.

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

Not good... After fasting a day, yesterday was giving him 4 times chicken breast meal but... This morning, he pooped watery poo again. I'm not sure why he's stil getting it, but will continue give him chicken breast meal for another few days.

What's the reason making him still diarrhea? Any advice, doctors?

Dr Nat · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1834 Location: Klang Valley

If he remains that way.. then I'd suggest another trip to the vet. This time, more aggressive treatment might be necessary.

voltex · Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 41

wheisan,

here is an artical all about stool for u. hehe

http://www.thepetcenter.com/exa/diarrhea.html

i also have a 8 months rottweiler and i also beh tahan his attitude.

can i know where u sent yors for tranning?

siong · Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 33

now is 4.30 am, my neighbours 2 rottweilers are having party in their garage now.
draging their owners cloths which is hanging on the rack. tears the cloth......
i'm watching out from my windows upstairs...................
i just wan to know whether ob training will avoid these situation?

voltex · Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 41

my rott likes to takes something everyting he is on the move around house.

last time is shoe, but now no more.

Dr Nat · Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 1834 Location: Klang Valley

Are those rott still in their growing stages? They tend to play a lot that way when they're still puppies. I dont think obedience training will curb that. What they need is behaviour modification.

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

Wow, can't imagine rotties can be that naughty!

My rotty is also very naughty when we bring him back. We started training him from the first day we brought him home. He is too clever, so he knows what can be done and what cannot from our pitch now. He will also try to push our limit, like if we don't let him to come into living hall, he'll push his toy further in and come in to get it, and then again to go further.

I read articles that you need to be strict on something you don't want him to do. Whenever you catch it, never let go and punish him. We did that. And also, articles showed that rotty is a dominant breed, which means he always take himself as the pack leader, so I did follow a way that turn him ard with his tummy above, and bite him slightly at his throat area when he not obey.

Although it seems to me quite funny to do that, and sometimes he kicked on my face also. But after all these while, he knows that me and my bf is the leader. Now he's so big for me to do that, but he already learnt his lessons.

Biting, chewing, being too playful and destructive is normal at their young age. They're just like kids! I will tie him up or put him in his cage when I can't supervise him, like - at work. Then when I go home, I will unleash him to get a run.

My point here is, training is to be done from the first minute, and continue for everyday. Obedience training do help alot. At least, I don't have to tie him up when opening the gate to clean his place. He will stay there until I finish all!

I bring him to puppy.com obedience training, but found out that somehow, our training is more effective than trainer's training session. But it's still a good time for him to socialize, my objective is to let him live as free as he can - as a companion dog!

wheisan · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Location: PJ

Anyway, just an update for my rotty diarrhea session - back to the topic! ;)

These holidays were really busy. I need to prepare 4 meals for my rotty a day, and have to go pasar to buy fresh chicken breast.

After the first 3 days of boiled half of chicken breast and soup, he poo about 2 days once, still in abit of watery. When it seems to be better (the poop), then I start to mix his meal of chicken breast with the diet food for 2 days later, he started to vomit once a day, about 5 hours after food.

The feeding time was 7am, 12pm, 7pm and 11pm. It was to follow our human normal eating time, I thought it was fine but since he started to vomit, I called up the vet and he wants me to bring my rotty over.

After checking, he mentioned that my rotty's stomach was upset because I fed him too little food. So I started to feed him more this time, but then found out he poop is watery, again!

I do not know how to measure, lesser food - lead to vomit, more food - lead to diarrhea. He has lost 0.7 kg when the 2nd visit to vet.

Feel heartache to see him suffer. I'm suffering also, have to go back at lunch time to feed him everyday... Can't enjoy my lunch nowaday because I'm a slow eater and 10 minutes definitely not enough for me.. Thinking, maybe sooner or later I'll get gastric if his condition never get better soon. Gee.